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Strategies to Deal With Phnom Penh Bar Girls

admin / June 10, 2012 / 5 comments

Phnom Penh bar girls come in all shapes and sizes (short and slim is the most common by far though) and they all have their own game. Knowing it can ensure maximum fun for you, and, hopefully, this comes about by showing the girl you fancy a good time too. This post will briefly go over five common types of Phnom Penh bar girls you are likely to encounter in hostess bars, freelancer joints, and discos.

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #1 – The Newbie

Description - These girls may not only be new to this line of work, they are possibly new to Phnom Penh too. They could be from some village or provincial capital and probably have no English. They learn the basics quickly enough though. Most often found in hostess bars because some hostess bars actively recruit young new girls by offering jobs to girls working in garment factories offering a job sitting in a bar with tips and higher pay instead of sitting long hours in a hot factory sewing. They also recruit passively by allowing girls employed at the bar to bring their friends to work based on word of mouth.

Strategies - These girls are often shy, so getting to them first is a good idea. They may get a kick out of hearing a foreigner try to speak some Khmer with them, so bring your dictionary and give it a try. You may end up with a free Khmer lesson in the process. Chatting with the other girls in the bar and getting them to like you helps too. Visit a few times before attempting to barfine to gain her confidence. It is entirely possible that such girls are just “working for the salary and tips” and are in fact non-barfinable. They want to keep their future prospects or marriage open, and uphold their family’s reputation so they choose to remain virgins. If this is the case, respect her wishes. Their are lots of other fish in the sea of Phnom Penh bar girls.

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #2 – The Party Girl

Description - These girls genuinely like partying at discos and is akin to party girls who work all week and party all weekend in the west. Think of them like promiscuous party girls at discos back home who go out to pick up a guy to have a one night stand, but with a few important differences. She may or may not have day job, she may just go with a customer to finance the cost of partying.

Strategies - Have fun with her and take part in the disco activities. Drink, dance, and be merry. It will make a good impression, but, like party girls in western countries she may be selective. One way to check if you are in is to buy her a drink, if she doesn’t disappear with it once you’ve paid, you’re in. If you take her early in the evening offer to go to a guesthouse nearby, she’ll probably want to go back to the disco afterwards. Where can one find these girls? Pontoon, Riverhouse, and Heart of Darkness are three nice enough discos where party girls looking for foreigners can be found Phnom Penh. Look for them on the dance floor.

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #3 – The “Ice Head”

Description - Phnom Penh bar girls work long hours. Some of them use methamphetamine, or ice as it is known locally. It is either a social recreational habit, or something to “take the edge off” when she does a job she doesn’t enjoy, or else it is a way for her to stay awake all night. Ice has the side effect of suppressing appetite and being addictive. The easiest way to spot a girl with an ice habit is the fact that she appears underweight. Not only because she’s got no appetite, she may simply choose to spend her money on ice instead of food. Some girls, on some occasions, can be a bit unpredictable and crazy for obvious reasons.

Strategies - These girls are keen to get customers and are easy to meet. If they are high, it may or may not be obvious. But if they are, they are less inhibited both in public and in private as a result. Some guys may like their Phnom Penh bar girls uninhibited, but if you decide to take her someplace to be alone, keep an eye on your wallet. Some of these girls have sticky fingers. As far as other activities, the decent thing to do is to offer to buy them some food. Ask to go with them to whatever snack stall is nearby and see what’s on offer to make sure your money gets her a few extra calories.

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #4 - Waiting for the big score

Description - These girls are looking for relatively few customers who can afford to pay more. Usually they are very beautiful girls, and they know it. Often very well dressed, graceful, and in high heels in the evenings, they can be found in a variety of places including hostess bars, freelancer hangouts, and discos. They are good with make up, have better than average taste in clothes, and have cultivated the poise to pull them off. Big score girls are usually quite pleasant, and friendly and more often than not they are on their own. When they find their “big score”, they don’t want competition around in the form of an attractive girlfriend looking for the same thing. Ultimately, such attractive girls are looking for a western husband with a steady income. Assuming they have what was mentioned above, they will often be successful and leave the scene of Phnom Penh bar girls once and for all.

Strategies - These girls are, by the nature of their game, more selective. They will be looking for guys with money, or attractive, younger guys. So, you can try to play up one of these strengths when chatting with her. The big score girls may be impressive in the evenings after spending an hour or so in a beauty salon getting dolled up, but in the day time, without makeup, a girl can look quite average compared her nighttime alter ego. If you are short on cash, offer to take her to lunch the next day, or just meet up. Big paying customers are evening fare for her, so you may be able to get a better price if you plan to take her somewhere more intimate in the day since it will be during her off peak hours when she’s not gone through the trouble of making herself up. Going with a customer generally spoils her makeup.

Alternatively, you may just wish to be the one to spoil her makeup. If so, when you meet such a girl in the evening just offer to pay her asking price. Hopefully by doing this you can enjoy your evening with her as she will be in a happy mood knowing that she will be getting the financial compensation she wants. Being straight forward and asking in the bar is perfectly fine. She may be looking for $40 -$60 for a short time, possibly even more. These girls tend to have regular customers whose company they enjoy and that can afford them. By waiting for the right guy, she’ll earn with one customer what other girls earn with two or three. Which brings us to our final type of bar girl discussed in this post…

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #5 - Taking all punters

Description - This type is your hardworking, salt of the earth bar girl. They will sometimes approach potential customers in their venue and maximize their earnings by sheer volume. Charming talkers, young girls, and pretty girls can find two, three or more customers in a night by going with them for a short time, then returning to the bar. They may even head to another spot to look for their next customer if you have freed them for the evening by paying their bar fine. Girls who are not well endowed with ways to attract guys may sit around all night, hoping for several customers but finding none.

Strategies - The only strategy for this kind of girl is to be conscious of her time. She will not want to go out dancing, or visit another bar with you because it means she’s giving up time to meet her next customer. They are out there to shake their money makers, so just make a proposition. Phnom Penh bar girls like these are happy to move fast and not too stickly about the price. Most are happy enough with $20, having asked numerous girls of this type, they say that $15 is okay, and $20 is a fair price. If she’s looking for more than this, she’s probably not taking all punters.

Surely there are lots more different types and sub-types of bar girls that could go in an article such as this. Feel free to comment on them below if you have a type of bar girl the guys want to know about. Hopefully this article has been useful and will help you to effectively navigate your way through the throngs of Phnom Penh bar girls you’ll encounter on your next evening on the town.

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Cambodian Bar Girls – Hostess Bars

admin / March 17, 2012 / 6 comments

The easiest place to meet Cambodian bar girls is, without a doubt, in Phnom Penh’s delightful glut of hostess bars. Hostess bars employ girls to keep customers entertained with conversation and games. The number of girls working at any one hostess bar varies depending on the size of the bar and the budget of the bar owner, but for the average bar there are perhaps ten to twenty girls in the bar on any given evening waiting to meet you.

Cambodian hostess bars are slightly different than those in Thailand because the girls employed there are not allowed to do any performance dancing, but other than that, the bars operate pretty much the same way. The bar girls are paid a salary but they can earn much more from tips. The average salary for Cambodian bar girls in hostess bars is $60 – $70 a month. Their salary is not very much by western standards, but it pays more than the most accessible alternative – working in the local garment factories. The bar girls do work hard though, usually getting only two days off each month. Their job entails making conversation and playing whatever games the bar has with the customers. Pool, connect four, and foosball are some of the most popular options. The girls will ask customers to buy them lady drinks, which cost the customer about $3 and earns the bar girls a $1 commission. Lots of girls supplement their income by freelancing at Heart of Darkness, or another disco, once the hostess bar they work at closes around 2am. Learn more about Cambodian bar girls in discos.

It is easy to meet these girls, after all, it is their job to talk with people and some foreign guys living Phnom Penh develop relationships with Cambodian bar girls working in hostess bars. These girls are usually very nice and will happily join you for a game of pool, sit and chat, or even teach you their language. Of course, they’d appreciate a tip for doing so! Some of the girls who work at these bars are very new to the job and have been recruited from garment factories or some other low paying jobs with the promise of higher income. Others have been working in hostess bars for years and are seasoned professionals. No matter how seasoned they are, they don’t get the sort of experience that girls in Thailand or Philippines get and are generally much more innocent as a result. Tourism in Cambodia has not taken off like it has in other parts of South East Asia. A lot of Cambodian bar girls, like their counterparts in other countries, dream of meeting a foreign man and having a happy marriage.

If a customer fancies a Cambodian bar girl and wishes to become better acquainted with her, it is possible to take her out of the bar. For this privilege, one must pay a “bar fine” to the owner of the bar. The standard bar fine in Cambodia is $5, much less than in other South East Asian countries. Some bars are raising their price to $10, so expect prices to vary depending on the quality of the bar and the virtues of the hostesses. Once you take a girl out of her bar, you can take her out for some food, to go dancing, for a drink, or straight to a guesthouse for a few hours.

Depending on your relationship with the girl, it is most likely that she would prefer to do whatever will get her paid fastest. This concept is strange to some foreign men who are used to girls who love to be wined and dined with romance in the air. Remember that for Cambodian bar girls from hostess bars, this is their job and that when they are finished with one customer they can go back to the bar, or head out to a disco to find another customer and make more money. Expect to pay $20 or more if you take a girl to a guest house for a short time. Some girls expect far more than this. Negotiation in advance can avoid problems later on. From the girls point of view, she is indignant if she doesn’t get the same amount her friends are getting from customers. Contrary, she will brag to them if she gets more. Be sensitive of this issue when negotiating.

If you are looking for some western style quality time with a hostess bar girl, be prepared to put in some time to develop a relationship with her by returning to the bar often. Remember that as long as she works for the bar, the bar owner will ensure that the bar’s interests come first and that customers pay for the time they spend with their employees (the bar girls). In order to spend a normal amount of time with a male customer, Cambodian bar girls will have to quit their jobs. If you ask a bar girl to quit her job so she can be with you, be prepared to compensate her financially as she will likely not have any other source of income.

There are three main areas in Phnom Penh where hostess bars are clustered together. They are on Street 104 (Seng Though Street) between the post office and the riverside, Street 136 (Oknha In Street) just off the riverside, and along Street 51 (Pasteur Street) between Street 154 (Dekcho Damdin) and Street 174 (Oknha Ket). Each of these areas has at least a dozen or so bars and one can easily bar hop from bar to bar searching for the perfect hostess. All three areas are a short moto ride from one another. At the time of this writing $1 is a fair price for travel from any one to any other by moto. Travel by tuk-tuk will cost $2. With all the locations so close together, and a plethora of drivers at each location waiting to ferry customers to their next venue, it is very convenient and easy to make your way around town to have some fun with Cambodian bar girls in Phnom Penh’s hostess bars.

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Cambodian Girls in Local Venues

admin / March 17, 2012 / No comments

Cambodian Girl in a Beer Garden

Many Cambodian girls looks for jobs working as servers or hostesses in beer gardens, karaoke clubs, and at Khmer discos that cater to local Khmer men. To understand their work better, it will help to understand the roles of men, women, and marriage in urban Cambodian culture. The Cambodian social system is patriarchal and men enjoy many more privileges than Cambodian girls because they have authority over women, children and property. A patriarchal social system is dependent on female subordination and divorce is relatively rare because, unfortunately for Cambodian girls, a divorce would ruin a woman’s reputation and it is very unlikely that she will be able to marry again. As a result, many Khmer women spend most of their time at home watching children and running the house. As one might imagine, the husbands take full advantage of the status quo and many Khmer men have girlfriends who work in beer gardens, karaoke clubs, and discos who they can meet any evening they like before they go home to their wives. Cambodian men with a moderate income get to have their cake and eat it too.

Beer Gardens

Typically, men select the hostess they wish to sit with as they are greeted at the entrance by a dozen or so smiling Cambodian girls who line the entrance to the venue with their hands pressed together in a traditional greeting. Each male customer usually selects his own girl. The whole party will be seated at a table or in a room together, and for the remainder of the evening guys will share their food and drinks with the hostesses. Sometimes, depending on the establishment, there may be an added charge to enjoy the company of a hostess. A friend once got a bill that read: beer $8, food $4, girl $3. The job of the hostess is to eat, drink and make conversation with customers. At first glance, a group of customers and hostesses might look and act like good friends chatting a joking with one another. And they may well have known each other for some time, but the Cambodian girls are employees doing their jobs, and the guys likely have wives back home.

BBQ Snakes and Deep Fried Insects

Beer gardens are an authentic Cambodian experience. These open air restaurants range in price and quality from moderately priced and well kept to cheap and disgusting. The common elements are authentic Cambodian food, the beer, which is often served in five litre chilled towers with a spout, and two rows of Cambodian girls, easily visible from the street, sitting in two rows under ominous red light. While you drink, people will wander in and out of the bar selling all sorts of local snacks. Some bizarre things are popular snacks in Cambodia!

Karaoke in Phnom Penh

Karaoke bars are indoors and have private rooms rented by the hour. They often have KTV on the front of the building, which stands for Karaoke Television, meaning you can watch video images, usually scenes from villages in the provinces, while the words to your song flash across the screen (in Khmer language). Some have English songs but you’ll need to ask. As for the Cambodian girls that are part and parcel with the whole karaoke experience, you can ask to see them all and pick the one(s) you want from a parade of ladies that is brought to you once you are seated in your private karaoke room. Depending on the quality of the place, the room will likely be $5 an hour or more and the girls may or may not be free. Beer and food is generally more expensive than in beer gardens. Be prepared for some interesting musical tastes!

Karaoke at a Beer Garden

Local Discos

Khmer discos may have girls sitting outside under a red light as well, or else there may be a room full of beautiful, dressed up Cambodian girls inside. If you arrive too late, there may be none left! Khmers generally start their evening early and go home early. Try going around ten pm. You may or may not pay for the girls at a disco. You can have you fun in a Khmer disco and still have time to hit a foreigner style disco later on. The discos are very different though. In the Khmer disco, Cambodian girls are modest and often do not touch while dancing, so it is best to be respectful. If a slow song comes on, the management may turn down the lights while everyone slow dances with their arms around one another. In contrast, couples in the foreigner discos may be groping each other as they dance.

Meeting Cambodian Girls at These Places

One thing these places all have in common is that the girls are employees and usually will stay until the bar closes around eleven o’clock or midnight. After that, anything is the negotiable; however, unlike girls who work in hostess bars, these girls are not inclined to go out of the bar with a customer they have just met, so guys must usually return a few times to make friends with a girl if he wishes to pursue anything, so don’t be surprised if your first invitation is declined. If a girl does go with a man, it is customary for him to pay her. Generally speaking, Khmer guys have less money that foreigners and they will usually give $5 or $10 before parting ways later that night. Foreign guys are a rarity at beer gardens, karaoke clubs, and Khmer discos, so these inexperienced Cambodian girls are not sure what to expect from them. Remember, these girls are usually very reserved and polite. It is expected that customers will treat them gently and respectfully. It may very well be that a foreigner who invites her to sit together may well be the very first foreigner she has spent any time with, so try to make a good impression. Whether you invite her out of the establishment or not, it is customary to tip your hostess, just make sure you hand it to her. If a tip is left in the server book along with the bill, the money will likely not go to your hostess, so take the money out and hand it to her directly to make sure it goes to her. Local guys will typically tip a Cambodian girl $2 – $5 in addition to whatever she eats and drinks before leaving the establishment.

Late Night Street Snacks

It would be difficult, but not impossible, for most foreigners to sit with any Cambodian girls and have an enjoyable evening unless your Khmer is relatively good or you are there with a male Cambodian friend who can translate. Any tuk-tuk driver would likely happily oblige, especially if you offer to pay. Make sure he has relatively good English though. A night out at any of these places instead of hitting some of Phnom Penh’s hostess bars and discos will allow you to enjoy the company of some charming Cambodian girls the same way most Cambodian men do.