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Strategies to Deal With Phnom Penh Bar Girls

Cambodian Girl Posing for Picture

Phnom Penh bar girls come in all shapes and sizes (short and slim is the most common by far though) and they all have their own game.  Knowing it can ensure maximum fun for you, and, hopefully, this comes about by showing the girl you fancy a good time too.  This post will briefly go over five common types of Phnom Penh bar girls you are likely to encounter in hostess barsfreelancer joints, and discos.

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #1 – The Newbie

Description - These girls may not only be new to this line of work, they are possibly new to Phnom Penh too.  They could be from some village or provincial capital and probably have no English.  They learn the basics quickly enough though.  Most often found in hostess bars because some hostess bars actively recruit young new girls by offering jobs to girls working in garment factories offering a job sitting in a bar with tips and higher pay instead of sitting long hours in a hot factory sewing.  They also recruit passively by allowing girls employed at the bar to bring their friends to work based on word of mouth.

Strategies - These girls are often shy, so getting to them first is a good idea.   They may get a kick out of hearing a foreigner try to speak some Khmer with them, so bring your dictionary and give it a try.  You may end up with a free Khmer lesson in the process.  Chatting with the other girls in the bar and getting them to like you helps too.  Visit a few times before attempting to barfine to gain her confidence.  It is entirely possible that such girls are just “working for the salary and tips” and are in fact non-barfinable.  They want to keep their future prospects or marriage open, and uphold their family’s reputation so they choose to remain virgins.  If this is the case, respect her wishes.  Their are lots of other fish in the sea of Phnom Penh bar girls.

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #2 – The Party Girl

Description - These girls genuinely like partying at discos and is akin to party girls who work all week and party all weekend in the west.  Think of them like promiscuous party girls at discos back home who go out to pick up a guy to have a one night stand, but with a few important differences.  She may or may not have day job, she may just go with a customer to finance the cost of partying.

Strategies - Have fun with her and take part in the disco activities.  Drink, dance, and be merry.  It will make a good impression, but, like party girls in western countries she may be selective.  One way to check if you are in is to buy her a drink, if she doesn’t disappear with it once you’ve paid, you’re in. If you take her early in the evening offer to go to a guesthouse nearby, she’ll probably want to go back to the disco afterwards.  Where can one find these girls?  PontoonRiverhouse, and Heart of Darkness are three nice enough discos where party girls looking for foreigners can be found Phnom Penh.  Look for them on the dance floor.

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #3 – The “Ice Head”

Description - Phnom Penh bar girls work long hours.  Some of them use methamphetamine, or ice as it is known locally.  It is either a social recreational habit, or something to “take the edge off” when she does a job she doesn’t enjoy, or else it is a way for her to stay awake all night.  Ice has the side effect of suppressing appetite and being addictive.  The easiest way to spot a girl with an ice habit is the fact that she appears underweight.  Not only because she’s got no appetite, she may simply choose to spend her money on ice instead of food.  Some girls, on some occasions, can be a bit unpredictable and crazy for obvious reasons.

Strategies - These girls are keen to get customers and are easy to meet.  If they are high, it may or may not be obvious.  But if they are, they are less inhibited both in public and in private as a result.  Some guys may like their Phnom Penh bar girls uninhibited, but if you decide to take her someplace to be alone, keep an eye on your wallet.  Some of these girls have sticky fingers.  As far as other activities, the decent thing to do is to offer to buy them some food.  Ask to go with them to whatever snack stall is nearby and see what’s on offer to make sure your money gets her a few extra calories.

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #4 - Waiting for the big score

Waiting to go into Heart of Darkness

Description - These girls are looking for relatively few customers who can afford to pay more. Usually they are very beautiful girls, and they know it.  Often very well dressed, graceful, and in high heels in the evenings, they can be found in a variety of places including hostess bars, freelancer hangouts, and discos.  They are good with make up, have better than average taste in clothes, and have cultivated the poise to pull them off.  Big score girls are usually quite pleasant, and friendly and more often than not they are on their own.  When they find their “big score”, they don’t want competition around in the form of an attractive girlfriend looking for the same thing.  Ultimately, such attractive girls are looking for a western husband with a steady income.  Assuming they have what was mentioned above, they will often be successful and leave the scene of Phnom Penh bar girls once and for all.

Strategies - These girls are, by the nature of their game, more selective.  They will be looking for guys with money, or attractive, younger guys.  So, you can try to play up one of these strengths when chatting with her.  The big score girls may be impressive in the evenings after spending an hour or so in a beauty salon getting dolled up, but in the day time, without makeup, a girl can look quite average compared her nighttime alter ego.  If you are short on cash, offer to take her to lunch the next day, or just meet up.  Big paying customers are evening fare for her, so you may be able to get a better price if you plan to take her somewhere more intimate in the day since it will be during her off peak hours when she’s not gone through the trouble of making herself up.  Going with a customer generally spoils her makeup.

Alternatively, you may just wish to be the one to spoil her makeup.  If so, when you meet such a girl in the evening just offer to pay her asking price.  Hopefully by doing this you can enjoy your evening with her as she will be in a happy mood knowing that she will be getting the financial compensation she wants.  Being straight forward and asking in the bar is perfectly fine.  She may be looking for $40 -$60 for a short time, possibly even more.  These girls tend to have regular customers whose company they enjoy and that can afford them.  By waiting for the right guy, she’ll earn with one customer what other girls earn with two or three.  Which brings us to our final type of bar girl discussed in this post…

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #5 - Taking all punters

Description - This type is your hardworking, salt of the earth bar girl.  They will sometimes approach potential customers in their venue and maximize their earnings by sheer volume.  Charming talkers, young girls, and pretty girls can find two, three or more customers in a night by going with them for a short time, then returning to the bar.  They may even head to another spot to look for their next customer if you have freed them for the evening by paying their bar fine.  Girls who are not well endowed with ways to attract guys may sit around all night, hoping for several customers but finding none.

Strategies - The only strategy for this kind of girl is to be conscious of her time.  She will not want to go out dancing, or visit another bar with you because it means she’s giving up time to meet her next customer.  They are out there to shake their money makers, so just make a proposition.  Phnom Penh bar girls like these are happy to move fast and not too stickly about the price.  Most are happy enough with $20, having asked numerous girls of this type, they say that $15 is okay, and $20 is a fair price.  If she’s looking for more than this, she’s probably not taking all punters.

Phnom Penh Bar Girls

Surely there are lots more different types and sub-types of bar girls that could go in an article such as this.  Feel free to comment on them below if you have a type of bar girl the guys want to know about.  Hopefully this article has been useful and will help you to effectively navigate your way through the throngs of Phnom Penh bar girls you’ll encounter on your next evening on the town.

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Freelance Cambodian Girls

Cambodian Bar Girl With Snacks

Cambodian Bar Girl With Snacks

Freelance Cambodian bar girls are common in Phnom Penh. For those unfamiliar with the term “freelancer”, it refers to a girl who is not employed by a bar, and is not part of an organization that watches over girls in return for a cut of their earnings. This means that freelance bar girls are working on their own terms. They come and go when they want and they go to the bars they choose. At the time of this writing, Walkabout, Sharky Bar, and Martini are the most popular bars to find freelance Cambodian bar girls in Phnom Penh in the early evening. Later in the evening, many of the freelance girls leave these bars and go to discos. Heart of Darkness, Pontoon, and Riverhouse Lounge are the most popular discos with Phnom Penh’s freelance bar girls. We’ve got a whole page about discos in Phnom Penh you can read more about them Girls in Discos page.

Cambodian girls working freelance have a difficult job because they are working on their own. Without someone watching over them, customers sometimes think that they can treat them badly. It is important to remember that these girls may have friends who can catch up with you, and, generally speaking, they don’t do their job because they enjoy it; they do it to earn money. Although the freelance profession has its disadvantages, there are also advantages that draw them to this particular line of work. They are as follows:

Cambodian Girls Playing Pool at Sharky Bar

Pool at Sharky Bar

■Many of these girls enjoy the freedom of “working” for themselves.
■They can move to wherever customers are at any time, day or night.
■They earn money to support their families on their own terms.
■Some enjoy spending time with their friends in bars they choose.
■Without a boss or a work schedule girls have the time to pursue relationships with foreign men.

Because these Cambodian girls have the freedom to come and go as they please, some engage in relationships with a foreign boyfriend, which is preferable to working as a freelance bar girl in Cambodia. Usually they leave the job once they find a guy who is able to provide support.

Girls have the potential to make more money as a freelance bar girl than waiting tables, hairdressing, taking a job at a market, sewing garments, selling fruit, or working other typical jobs around town. Most jobs in Cambodia pay a mere $50-$70 a month and that is just not enough to live on. Such a salary requires a girl (or guy for that matter) to live with their family, provided their family lives in Phnom Penh, or else live in cramped, shared accommodations with other low income earners. Many bar girls live this way, sharing a room with other girls. Many still can’t earn enough money, as they use amphetamines to stay up, need to send a lot of money to their families, or they simply spend money as fast as they get it. This line of work attracts independent, brave girls, some of whom wind up hooked on drugs as a result of their work.

Freelance Cambodian Girl

Nice smile!

For foreigners, meeting freelance Cambodian girls is very easy. You just say hello and possibly offer to buy adrink (most seem to like cola more than beer), but don’t expect stimulating conversation as many of these girls speak only a little English and finding common ground to talk about may prove difficult. Most will have a very sad, and likely true, story to tell if you ask, which usually explains why they need money. Our page on girls’ social background explains this in more detail. A comfortable alternative to striking up a conversation with a freelance girl is to invite her girl to play some pool. Martini has two tables, which seem to be in the worst condition year in and year out. Walkabout has three tables which are slightly better and are recovered with new felt every few years, but rarely leveled. Sharky Bar has three excellent, well maintained tables. One for nine ball, and two for eight ball. Games at Sharky Bar cost 25 cents and the loser pays. The bar girls are eager to play and it is easier to make some conversation while passing the time playing pool. They are used to meeting foreigners this way.

A word of caution: there are some finer points of the bar girl cash game to be aware of. Our advice is to pay her a fair price. Although she works on her own, she probably has friends who could easily make things very bad for you. You can ask in advance, or simply pay upwards of $20 to enjoy her company for a short time. Some girls are accustomed to receiving $30 or $40 for their short time service, so if you plan to lowball your offer, be prepared for some potential negotiation! Of course you’ll need to offer significantly more for 12 or 24 hours and you probably want to negotiate this in advance. If you share a room with a girl, be aware that you may have your pockets lightened while you are in the shower. Take your shorts or pants into the bathroom with you to avoid it. Generally, Cambodian girls are a lot more pleasant and less greedy than you might find in Thailand, but this is only due to the fact that Cambodian girls have collectively experienced far few tourists than girls in Pattaya or Bangkok.

In addition to paying girls while in the country, some guys like to send girls money each month once they leave Cambodia. This is a very nice gesture on the part of these guys, but it would be foolish to assume that a girl would stop going to the bars to look for customers because she has friend overseas sending money. She’ll definitely be waiting for you though upon your return, and she’ll keep in touch while you are away. Sending a few hundred dollars each month is a sure way to get yourself an email pen-pal and plenty of smiles via your skype connection whenever you chat.

For some guys, freelance girls are the highlight of their trip, and in some cases, the reason they come to Phnom Penh. A small number of guys retire here, or come here to work, and they spend their evenings visiting the bars mentioned here, shooting pool, drinking beer with their friends, and regularly making the acquaintance of new freelance Cambodian bar girls in the places they frequent.

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