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Strategies to Deal With Phnom Penh Bar Girls

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Phnom Penh bar girls come in all shapes and sizes (short and slim is the most common by far though) and they all have their own game.  Knowing it can ensure maximum fun for you, and, hopefully, this comes about by showing the girl you fancy a good time too.  This post will briefly go over five common types of Phnom Penh bar girls you are likely to encounter in hostess barsfreelancer joints, and discos.

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #1 – The Newbie

Description - These girls may not only be new to this line of work, they are possibly new to Phnom Penh too.  They could be from some village or provincial capital and probably have no English.  They learn the basics quickly enough though.  Most often found in hostess bars because some hostess bars actively recruit young new girls by offering jobs to girls working in garment factories offering a job sitting in a bar with tips and higher pay instead of sitting long hours in a hot factory sewing.  They also recruit passively by allowing girls employed at the bar to bring their friends to work based on word of mouth.

Strategies - These girls are often shy, so getting to them first is a good idea.   They may get a kick out of hearing a foreigner try to speak some Khmer with them, so bring your dictionary and give it a try.  You may end up with a free Khmer lesson in the process.  Chatting with the other girls in the bar and getting them to like you helps too.  Visit a few times before attempting to barfine to gain her confidence.  It is entirely possible that such girls are just “working for the salary and tips” and are in fact non-barfinable.  They want to keep their future prospects or marriage open, and uphold their family’s reputation so they choose to remain virgins.  If this is the case, respect her wishes.  Their are lots of other fish in the sea of Phnom Penh bar girls.

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #2 – The Party Girl

Description - These girls genuinely like partying at discos and is akin to party girls who work all week and party all weekend in the west.  Think of them like promiscuous party girls at discos back home who go out to pick up a guy to have a one night stand, but with a few important differences.  She may or may not have day job, she may just go with a customer to finance the cost of partying.

Strategies - Have fun with her and take part in the disco activities.  Drink, dance, and be merry.  It will make a good impression, but, like party girls in western countries she may be selective.  One way to check if you are in is to buy her a drink, if she doesn’t disappear with it once you’ve paid, you’re in. If you take her early in the evening offer to go to a guesthouse nearby, she’ll probably want to go back to the disco afterwards.  Where can one find these girls?  PontoonRiverhouse, and Heart of Darkness are three nice enough discos where party girls looking for foreigners can be found Phnom Penh.  Look for them on the dance floor.

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #3 – The “Ice Head”

Description - Phnom Penh bar girls work long hours.  Some of them use methamphetamine, or ice as it is known locally.  It is either a social recreational habit, or something to “take the edge off” when she does a job she doesn’t enjoy, or else it is a way for her to stay awake all night.  Ice has the side effect of suppressing appetite and being addictive.  The easiest way to spot a girl with an ice habit is the fact that she appears underweight.  Not only because she’s got no appetite, she may simply choose to spend her money on ice instead of food.  Some girls, on some occasions, can be a bit unpredictable and crazy for obvious reasons.

Strategies - These girls are keen to get customers and are easy to meet.  If they are high, it may or may not be obvious.  But if they are, they are less inhibited both in public and in private as a result.  Some guys may like their Phnom Penh bar girls uninhibited, but if you decide to take her someplace to be alone, keep an eye on your wallet.  Some of these girls have sticky fingers.  As far as other activities, the decent thing to do is to offer to buy them some food.  Ask to go with them to whatever snack stall is nearby and see what’s on offer to make sure your money gets her a few extra calories.

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #4 - Waiting for the big score

Waiting to go into Heart of Darkness

Description - These girls are looking for relatively few customers who can afford to pay more. Usually they are very beautiful girls, and they know it.  Often very well dressed, graceful, and in high heels in the evenings, they can be found in a variety of places including hostess bars, freelancer hangouts, and discos.  They are good with make up, have better than average taste in clothes, and have cultivated the poise to pull them off.  Big score girls are usually quite pleasant, and friendly and more often than not they are on their own.  When they find their “big score”, they don’t want competition around in the form of an attractive girlfriend looking for the same thing.  Ultimately, such attractive girls are looking for a western husband with a steady income.  Assuming they have what was mentioned above, they will often be successful and leave the scene of Phnom Penh bar girls once and for all.

Strategies - These girls are, by the nature of their game, more selective.  They will be looking for guys with money, or attractive, younger guys.  So, you can try to play up one of these strengths when chatting with her.  The big score girls may be impressive in the evenings after spending an hour or so in a beauty salon getting dolled up, but in the day time, without makeup, a girl can look quite average compared her nighttime alter ego.  If you are short on cash, offer to take her to lunch the next day, or just meet up.  Big paying customers are evening fare for her, so you may be able to get a better price if you plan to take her somewhere more intimate in the day since it will be during her off peak hours when she’s not gone through the trouble of making herself up.  Going with a customer generally spoils her makeup.

Alternatively, you may just wish to be the one to spoil her makeup.  If so, when you meet such a girl in the evening just offer to pay her asking price.  Hopefully by doing this you can enjoy your evening with her as she will be in a happy mood knowing that she will be getting the financial compensation she wants.  Being straight forward and asking in the bar is perfectly fine.  She may be looking for $40 -$60 for a short time, possibly even more.  These girls tend to have regular customers whose company they enjoy and that can afford them.  By waiting for the right guy, she’ll earn with one customer what other girls earn with two or three.  Which brings us to our final type of bar girl discussed in this post…

Phnom Penh Bar Girl #5 - Taking all punters

Description - This type is your hardworking, salt of the earth bar girl.  They will sometimes approach potential customers in their venue and maximize their earnings by sheer volume.  Charming talkers, young girls, and pretty girls can find two, three or more customers in a night by going with them for a short time, then returning to the bar.  They may even head to another spot to look for their next customer if you have freed them for the evening by paying their bar fine.  Girls who are not well endowed with ways to attract guys may sit around all night, hoping for several customers but finding none.

Strategies - The only strategy for this kind of girl is to be conscious of her time.  She will not want to go out dancing, or visit another bar with you because it means she’s giving up time to meet her next customer.  They are out there to shake their money makers, so just make a proposition.  Phnom Penh bar girls like these are happy to move fast and not too stickly about the price.  Most are happy enough with $20, having asked numerous girls of this type, they say that $15 is okay, and $20 is a fair price.  If she’s looking for more than this, she’s probably not taking all punters.

Phnom Penh Bar Girls

Surely there are lots more different types and sub-types of bar girls that could go in an article such as this.  Feel free to comment on them below if you have a type of bar girl the guys want to know about.  Hopefully this article has been useful and will help you to effectively navigate your way through the throngs of Phnom Penh bar girls you’ll encounter on your next evening on the town.

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Cambodian Girls in Discos

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Some foreign guys like to meet Cambodian girls in Phnom Penh’s discos.  Several such bars exist that attract a healthy number of Cambodian bar girls looking for foreign men. “Foreigner Discos” such as Heart of Darkness, Pontoon, and Riverhouse Lounge are the three most popular in town.   Don’t confuse these discos with “Khmer Discos” such as Spark, The Rock, Dark Room Bar, or DJ Club.  These places attract lots of local talent, but if you are looking for Cambodian bar girls, you are in the wrong place.

Lots of the Cambodian girls who frequent Heart of Darkness, Pontoon, and Riverhouse Lounge are freelance Cambodian bar girls and are not employed by the bar, but some girls, especially on the weekends, are not professionals, and are just there for a good time.  Be respectful when engaging any girls at these bars.  Some rich Khmer youths take their girlfriends out, as well as their bodyguards, and it is best to avoid any trouble with them by accidently getting too friendly with one of their girlfriends on the dance floor.  Many of the freelance Cambodian bar girls at the discos work at various hostess jobs at bars, karaoke clubs, and restaurants in Phnom Penh and they head straight to a disco once they finish work to dance with their friends or meet someone “special”, so one can expect a steady stream of new girls to arrive from midnight onward, most of whom are looking to supplement their income by acquainting themselves with someone who will enjoy their company in a nearby guest house for an hour or two in return for financial compensation.

Heart of Darkness

Of the three discos we’ve mentioned, Heart of Darkness on St. 51 is by far the girls’ favorite, and one of the most infamous freelance bar girl scenes in South East Asia.  It is packed on weekends, and pretty much any night of the week you can select from a plethora of hot Cambodian girls.  It seems to be their place of choice from midnight to about three am any night of the week.  When you go, follow a few simple guidelines to maximize your fun, and avoid trouble.

The bar girls are easily spotted standing near the entrance or around the bar.  The ones who want to show off their assets flounce around on the small landing at the bottom of the stairs where they are clearly visible to the whole bar.  They will likely be there with a girlfriend or two.  Be wary of Cambodian girls dancing solo on the platform by the DJ.  Girls up there are possibly under close watch of their boyfriends sitting at their reserved tables around the platform.  Also, know that on some nights, the long table just inside the entrance may be lady-boy territory.

A Nice Smile

Meeting the girls is easy.  Invite them to dance or start up a conversation about your trip to Cambodia.  Most speak reasonable English or else they’ll have a friend who can translate.  Cambodian bar girls are notoriously short on cash and seemingly always thirsty or hungry.  If you are so inclined, invite them for a quick bite or a drink outside on the street to get to know each other.  You can always go back in again as Heart of Darkness is has no cover charge. The mini-mart across the street makes a killing selling condoms, snacks, and beer and there are tables for customers on the sidewalk keeping the street busy late at night.  There are also several places to buy burgers, hot dogs, kebabs and other western night time favorites, all conveniently located a stone’s throw from the entrance to Heart of Darkness.  An offer to take a bar girl to one of the places that serves local food can score big brownie points.  Try nge-yo, small clams cooked live, boiled or fried, or quiti-yo, a noodle soup.  They make great late night snacks and will warm her heart.

Girls at Riverhouse Lounge

As always when dealing with a Cambodian bar girl, if you decide that you like her, and want to spend some quality time together, protect yourself by investing in a package of condoms.  Additionally, take your wallet with you when you go to the shower.  When you go your separate ways, pay her a fair price.  The Cambodian economy is dreadful and local incomes are so low that what is fair to them is a meager amount to foreigners.  At the time of this writing, $15 USD for a short time is the lowest rate, and $30 USD is enough to make most any Cambodian bar girl ask for your phone number to meet you again.  Expect to pay for the guesthouse as well.  There are dozens and dozens within a ten minute walk of Heart of Darkness, Pontoon, or Riverhouse Lounge.  It is easy to walk, but if you don’t know the city, it is a much better, and safer, idea to take a moto.  The going rate for a moto at night is $1 if you are going only a few blocks or bar hopping.

Riverhouse Lounge

Oddly enough, the moto drivers don’t seem to get a commission for bringing in customers.  The guesthouse price stays the same whether you walk or ride to your destination.  Phnom Penh is relatively small and most nighttime party people will not travel far to find a guesthouse or visit another bar or disco (with the possible exception of a trip to or from Martini’s, which is a bit further from the center of the action, but well worth the trip as there are a lot of girls there who don’t make the trip into the center of the city).

Pontoon

Hitting a disco full of Phnom Penh bar girls is lots of fun, sometimes a little crazy, and sometimes even a bit conservative.  To make the most of it, remember that a little spending goes a long way in Cambodia!  When negotiating with them, remember the prices on this website to gauge a fair price for everything you do.  The locals will appreciate your business whether they drive a moto, rent rooms at a guest house, or if they are accompanying you to your guesthouse on your evening’s adventures.  Take the time to learn specifically about the lives and social background of the girls who work at the Phnom Penh discos mentioned here.  Also visit our info page on freelance Cambodian bar girls.

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